Whats your climate stance?

[Pedro de pacas]

38 years of the "man made global warming" scam, and for the first time in me life, I was wearing long pants a jumper and a fucking beanie in January


Yeah I'm a believer

 

[R3za92]

I don't recall stating there's only "one" way to go with renewables. But if you're like many that want a combination of renewables, how well have you thought out the disposable methods of these systems when they come to the end of their lifespan. What happens to the battery banks, panels, wind turbines, etc? I got no idea, myself, but re-purposing/disposing a few spent fuel rods has surely going to be a simplier, more manageable than most of the other current tech that has surfaced in recent years.

With folks like Twiggy exploring Hydrogen, i see that as only being a good thing in time if they can sort it. As it is, Electric vehicles are a bad joke. Fooling people into thinking they've gone green themselves, but here we are recharging them via the grid that is powered coal fired power stations. To me, Hybird cars are the better option over full electric in this point in time if one was to go that way.

there’s already been huge leaps made in recycling of solar panels and lithium batteries in the last 5-10 years. Also it’s already greener to run an electric car powers by a non renewable grid than a petrol or diesel and it’ll only get better as more renewables are put into the network. The issue we currently face is distribution because our network isn’t set up to handle a large amount of smaller generators spread across the country, it’s set up for a few larger generators and there’s almost no money to be made in upgrading the grid so it’s unlikely that private companies will do so (and is partially the reason we have grid issues as it is because the private owners don’t put fuck all into it for maintenance let alone upgrade/expansion), currently grid stability/access is the largest hurdle renewables face in getting a construction project off the ground. If the fed government was smart they’d take control of the grid and maintain/upgrade it to spur on private investment in renewables.

 

[Pedro de pacas]

Co2 is the miracle greenhouse gas, it cause's hot and cold weather, droughts fires and floods
increased snow fall, no snow ever again, glaciers growing, and shrinking, I.E. normal weather lol

As me mate flim flam flannery said,
Tim Flannery on Landline in 2007, as reported in the Herald Sun 5/3/2013:

“PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: We’re already seeing the initial impacts and they include a decline in the winter rainfall zone across southern Australia, which is clearly an impact of climate change, but also a decrease in run-off. Although we’re getting say a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas of Australia, that’s translating to a 60 per cent decrease in the run-off into the dams and rivers. That’s because the soil is warmer because of global warming and the plants are under more stress and therefore using more moisture. So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems, and that’s a real worry for the people in the bush. If that trend continues then I think we’re going to have serious problems, particularly for irrigation.”

there’s already been huge leaps made in recycling of solar panels and lithium batteries in the last 5-10 years. Also it’s already greener to run an electric car powers by a non renewable grid than a petrol or diesel and it’ll only get better as more renewables are put into the network. The issue we currently face is distribution because our network isn’t set up to handle a large amount of smaller generators spread across the country, it’s set up for a few larger generators and there’s almost no money to be made in upgrading the grid so it’s unlikely that private companies will do so (and is partially the reason we have grid issues as it is because the private owners don’t put fuck all into it for maintenance let alone upgrade/expansion), currently grid stability/access is the largest hurdle renewables face in getting a construction project off the ground. If the fed government was smart they’d take control of the grid and maintain/upgrade it to spur on private investment in renewables.

Used to work on the Vic electricity grid, your full of shit lol

 

[benn0]

I don't recall stating there's only "one" way to go with renewables. But if you're like many that want a combination of renewables, how well have you thought out the disposable methods of these systems when they come to the end of their lifespan. What happens to the battery banks, panels, wind turbines, etc? I got no idea, myself, but re-purposing/disposing a few spent fuel rods has surely going to be a simplier, more manageable than most of the other current tech that has surfaced in recent years.

With folks like Twiggy exploring Hydrogen, i see that as only being a good thing in time if they can sort it. As it is, Electric vehicles are a bad joke. Fooling people into thinking they've gone green themselves, but here we are recharging them via the grid that is powered coal fired power stations. To me, Hybird cars are the better option over full electric in this point in time if one was to go that way.

+1 for nuclear

 

[Pedro de pacas]

So ya going to charge up ya electric car using your home solar panels

How does that work, smallest LED car is about 45 kws, most home solar systems wont produce that
then there is the going to work problem, in the LED car I hope, so unless the moon powers ya panels, your fucked, and using coal

Just another scam, Electric cars are great ??, but don't kid yaself thinking your going to save the planet

Not that it needs saving lol

 

[benn0]

haha really

Renewables Increasingly Beat Even Cheapest Coal Competitors on Cost

Competitive power generation costs make investment in renewables highly attractive as countries target economic recovery from COVID-19, new IRENA report finds.

www.irena.org

Australian power prices forecast to fall by 7% by 2022 as cost of renewables drops | Energy | The Guardian

Energy board says renewables growth will cut electricity prices, but warns extreme weather and ageing coal plants a threat to energy security

www.google.com

Its not an issue of cost, its an issue of infrastructure at the moment, you can't exactly jump in your hydrogen powered car and fill up with hydrogen when travelling across the nullabor
same as an electric car, you could maybe squander some leccky for a slower charge

Australia is well placed to literally lead the world for renewables, we have the sunshine, we have the people with minds and we have investors keen, even ol' mate twiggy see's the writing on the wall. Its just the government has squandered many a opportunity to block any meaning investment in renewables. Its only the last couple years we are seeing the Libs reluctantly lift their thumb or foot off of renewables to allow them to establish

 

[benn0]

So ya going to charge up ya electric car using your home solar panels

How does that work, smallest LED car is about 45 kws, most home solar systems wont produce that
then there is the going to work problem, in the LED car I hope, so unless the moon powers ya panels, your fucked, and using coal

Just another scam, Electric cars are great ??, but don't kid yaself thinking your going to save the planet

Not that it needs saving lol

The only reason why human civilization has flourished is because of greed, its just worked out well the personal greed has pushed science and technology forward.

I honestly don't understand why you don't understand this, your 1 defence is, solar wont work when sun dont shine and shit.

It's going to take a mix of renewables, including implementing nuclear and storage, and most definetly an overhaul of Australias aging power grids (likely the reason Gladys sold of NSW's poles and wires).

 

[R3za92]

+1 for nuclear

Too expensive and take too long to build vs renewables m and that’s before we look at the safety factor

Renewables vs. Nuclear: Do We Need More Nuclear Power?

Renewables vs. Nuclear: Do We Need More Nuclear Power? - Renewable Energy World

www.renewableenergyworld.com

Nuclear vs renewables: what's better for climate mitigation? - STEPS Centre

A study suggests that investing in renewables is more effective for rapidly reducing carbon emissions than prioritising nuclear power.

steps-centre.org

Expert's Pick: Why there is no competition in the nuclear vs. renewables debate - REN21

For this week’s Expert’s Pick, Outreach & Communications Manager Williamson where she reflects on why there is no competition in the nuclear vs. renewables debate.

www.ren21.net

Renewable energy versus nuclear: dispelling the myths

Don’t believe the claims of nuclear shills putting down renewables, writes Mark Diesendorf. Renewables can supply 100% of our power, nuclear is doomed.

energypost.eu

 

[Pedro de pacas]

OK lets build the worlds largest solar panel farm in the world, chuck in the middle of OZ, plenty of sunshine there
could produce all of Australia's electricity needs

What is stopping that from happening ?, what would the cost be ?, what sort of transmission loses would we have powering up the Capital city's ????????

 

[Pedro de pacas]

The only reason why human civilization has flourished is because of greed, its just worked out well the personal greed has pushed science and technology forward.

lol what can one say to that, a round of applause is all I got

clap clap clap

 

[benn0]

OK lets build the worlds largest solar panel farm in the world, chuck in the middle of OZ, plenty of sunshine there
could produce all of Australia's electricity needs

What is stopping that from happening ?, what would the cost be ?, what sort of transmission loses would we have powering up the Capital city's ????????

Investment and the government lol
Transmission losses for AC power would be too gnarly, it would require a DC grid. HAHAHA

 

[Pedro de pacas]

Investment and the government lol
Transmission losses for AC power would be too gnarly, it would require a DC grid. HAHAHA

I'm all for pulverized coal deiseal generators, wish I had one here

I'm a DC after all

 

[R3za92]

OK lets build the worlds largest solar panel farm in the world, chuck in the middle of OZ, plenty of sunshine there
could produce all of Australia's electricity needs

What is stopping that from happening ?, what would the cost be ?, what sort of transmission loses would we have powering up the Capital city's ????????

You do realise that currently 20+% of our grid is currently renewables right? And that figure is growing every year.

 

[Pedro de pacas]

You do realise that currently 20+% of our grid is currently renewables right? And that figure is growing every year.

yeah that's why me power bill went up 80% last year

Pity the piss poor old pensioners cunts that can't afford to heat there homes in winter

 

[R3za92]

Investment and the government lol
Transmission losses for AC power would be too gnarly, it would require a DC grid. HAHAHA

Or just dc long range transmission to localalised distribution stations to switch back to ac.

also throwing some money down the superconductor route and making it a variable technology would greatly benefit our country

 

[benn0]

yeah that's why me power bill went up 80% this year

Pity the piss poor old cunt that can't afford to heat there homes in winter

your power bill went up because of the shithouse infrastructure and the squandering of innovation by the government. You can't come back and say closed down power plants

 

[R3za92]

yeah that's why me power bill went up 80% last year

Pity the piss poor old cunt that can't afford to heat there homes in winter

Mate that’s not renewables fault.
I’m on industrial power and my bills gone down over the last 5 years. T

 

[R3za92]

your power bill went up because of the shithouse infrastructure and the squandering of innovation by the government. You can't come back and say closed down power plants

Fact. Our grids an ageing patchwork of repairs. Ever since it was sold to private companies less and less maintenance is being carried out.

 

[benn0]

Or just dc long range transmission to localalised distribution stations to switch back to ac.

also throwing some money down the superconductor route and making it a variable technology would greatly benefit our country

yeah thats what I was thinking of, not a whole revamp of 240v AC to DC lol

Superconductors are about to transform power generation, I think we've now got superconductors at around dry ice temperatures which is impressive, making it cheaper and easier to transmit electricity

 

[Pedro de pacas]

your power bill went up because of the shithouse infrastructure and the squandering of innovation by the government. You can't come back and say closed down power plants

Gold plated infrastructure around here, it was the state governments that never kept it upgraded