The hermaphrodite thread!

[med180]

Everyone should move to the hermie thread! See yas there!!

I made this thread a week ago in an effort to get us out of Gazzas thread

 

[Pikey]

Why don't you ask Porky and Mick if they have ever had the decency to let other breeders know about their grow errors? Why is it lately this passive aggressive stance you seem to take towards my posts Pikey? Is there something you'd like to say? So sure I should have the decency to give MSNL feedback, but you've also missed dozens of unsubstantiated and incorrect pot shots directed at me and others in the last week. And this is the best you can come up with Pikey?

Nice deflection to victimhood .

Mate you need to let some air out of that massive head of yours... I'm not attacking you, I'm simply asking a fucking question!

Also, what passive aggressive stance are you talking about? Is your ego that out of control that any post not licking your arse is to be taken as an attack on you? ...fuck me, get over yourself . I'm entitled to my opinions as are you and every other member on here.

Your beef with Mick and Porky is none of my concern and has nothing to do with me and ...more importantly it has nothing to do with my question! I was simply asking if you took the time to let them know you thought their seeds were shit, did you take the time to let them know you made a mistake? Not sure how you found conspiracy in such a simple fucking question?

Also, not sure why you think it's my duty to defend you or others from "unsubstantiated claims" ...you can fight your own battles can't you? ...You do know I'm not your mum don't you mate?.

Anyway just to summarise your response, in your mind your failure to act like a decent human being by contacting MSNL to correct your erroneous claims is made null and void by my "failure" to call out "dozens of unsubstantiated and incorrect pot shots directed at me(you) and others in the last week"? ...and that's the best you can do .

 

[Madmick]

Can any body show me 1 reference to round-up turning cannabis hermie that isn't opinions and is based on fact whether it be biological or genetic mutation caused by the chemicals found in the makings of round-up I'll try explain best i can what chemical (not sure if that's the correct term maybe biological) to the plant for male flowers to appear on female flowers if you bother to read on

The problem I see in some light studies among others they are done by individuals when trying to discover what causes a plant to turn in the first place , there is no way of identifying whether it carries those traits or not and may have hermied regardless of conditions

I'll agree I was wrong saying it's genetics or chromosomes as a cannabis plant can develop male flowers even if it doesn't carry the y chromosome , this is what's puzzling scientists

So from what I understand it's trait that can be passed from 1 generation to the next , which is why we try eliminating hermies from our breeding stock and don't grow there seeds as there is a 50/50 chance they too will hermie even though they will be female

Research so far into the making of feminised seeds has discovered that the colloidal silver acts as ethylene inhibitor/antagonist that forces female plants to produce male flowers that have pollen with only female chromosomes

Why some female plants start to produce ethylene and not others is what they are trying to identify

Lots of money depends on the outcomes of these studies for commercial growers

If they can identify what triggers the production of ethylene in a normally healthy female grown under commercial standards to hermie will help eliminate wasted production of hermaphrodites that could potentially destroy the entire crop which as of 2 yrs ago was a major issue for commercial growers in Canada

So it's fair to say no one really knows why It happens all we can do is try our best to eliminate from our breeding stocks best we can

Hermaphrodites are as old as cannabis itself , old fart better check your facts here , to say you're a bad grower that why you get hermies is not only childish and spiteful but uniformed

 

[med180]

Can any body show me 1 reference to round-up turning cannabis hermie that isn't opinions and is based on fact whether it be biological or genetic mutation caused by the chemicals found in the makings of round-up I'll try explain best i can what chemical (not sure if that's the correct term maybe biological) to the plant for male flowers to appear on female flowers if you bother to read on

The problem I see in some light studies among others they are done by individuals when trying to discover what causes a plant to turn in the first place , there is no way of identifying whether it carries those traits or not and may have hermied regardless of conditions

I'll agree I was wrong saying it's genetics or chromosomes as a cannabis plant can develop male flowers even if it doesn't carry the y chromosome , this is what's puzzling scientists

So from what I understand it's trait that can be passed from 1 generation to the next , which is why we try eliminating hermies from our breeding stock and don't grow there seeds as there is a 50/50 chance they too will hermie even though they will be female

Research so far into the making of feminised seeds has discovered that the colloidal silver acts as ethylene inhibitor/antagonist that forces female plants to produce male flowers that have pollen with only female chromosomes

Why some female plants start to produce ethylene and not others is what they are trying to identify

Lots of money depends on the outcomes of these studies for commercial growers

If they can identify what triggers the production of ethylene in a normally healthy female grown under commercial standards to hermie will help eliminate wasted production of hermaphrodites that could potentially destroy the entire crop which as of 2 yrs ago was a major issue for commercial growers in Canada

So it's fair to say no one really knows why It happens all we can do is try our best to eliminate from our breeding stocks best we can

Hermaphrodites are as old as cannabis itself , old fart better check your facts here , to say you're a bad grower that why you get hermies is not only childish and spiteful but uniformed

"So from what I understand it's trait that can be passed from 1 generation to the next , which is why we try eliminating hermies from our breeding stock and don't grow there seeds as there is a 50/50 chance they too will hermie even though they will be female"

This is only to do with this paragraph but check the first link I posted in this thread. Very interesting, using genetic test found that the first gen seeds in a self fertilised plant were all female with no more likelihood of turning hermi than the parent generation (5-10%) also nearly the same genetic spread as the cross fertilised population. No testing of further generations were done though

 

[Madmick]

Why don't you ask Porky and Mick if they have ever had the decency to let other breeders know about their grow errors? Why is it lately this passive aggressive stance you seem to take towards my posts Pikey? Is there something you'd like to say? So sure I should have the decency to give MSNL feedback, but you've also missed dozens of unsubstantiated and incorrect pot shots directed at me and others in the last week. And this is the best you can come up with Pikey?

Can't help yourself you dumb fuck stop talking bullshit
You poor victim
I very brought seeds on maybe 2 occasions from seedsman. No hermies
The only other seeds I've got ate a few from gazza and you.
And yes you silly fart I did bother tell both you and gazza , but you for some reason took offence
How dare you say a few of my seeds hermied
You are seriously displaying your lack of communication skills when your views are challenged you get so defensive
Get over yourself

 

[Madmick]

"So from what I understand it's trait that can be passed from 1 generation to the next , which is why we try eliminating hermies from our breeding stock and don't grow there seeds as there is a 50/50 chance they too will hermie even though they will be female"

This is only to do with this paragraph but check the first link I posted in this thread. Very interesting, using genetic test found that the first gen seeds in a self fertilised plant were all female with no more likelihood of turning hermi than the parent generation (5-10%) also nearly the same genetic spread as the cross fertilised population. No testing of further generations were done though

Interesting, the more actual scientific research the better

 

[Billygoat]

"So from what I understand it's trait that can be passed from 1 generation to the next , which is why we try eliminating hermies from our breeding stock and don't grow there seeds as there is a 50/50 chance they too will hermie even though they will be female"

This is only to do with this paragraph but check the first link I posted in this thread. Very interesting, using genetic test found that the first gen seeds in a self fertilised plant were all female with no more likelihood of turning hermi than the parent generation (5-10%) also nearly the same genetic spread as the cross fertilised population. No testing of further generations were done though

At least someone else read it.. interseting stuff for sure.

 

[Madmick]

Can any body show me 1 reference to round-up turning cannabis hermie that isn't opinions and is based on fact whether it be biological or genetic mutation caused by the chemicals found in the makings of round-up I'll try explain best i can what chemical (not sure if that's the correct term maybe biological) to the plant for male flowers to appear on female flowers if you bother to read on

The problem I see in some light studies among others they are done by individuals when trying to discover what causes a plant to turn in the first place , there is no way of identifying whether it carries those traits or not and may have hermied regardless of conditions

I'll agree I was wrong saying it's genetics or chromosomes as a cannabis plant can develop male flowers even if it doesn't carry the y chromosome , this is what's puzzling scientists

So from what I understand it's trait that can be passed from 1 generation to the next , which is why we try eliminating hermies from our breeding stock and don't grow there seeds as there is a 50/50 chance they too will hermie even though they will be female

Research so far into the making of feminised seeds has discovered that the colloidal silver acts as ethylene inhibitor/antagonist that forces female plants to produce male flowers that have pollen with only female chromosomes

Why some female plants start to produce ethylene and not others is what they are trying to identify

Lots of money depends on the outcomes of these studies for commercial growers

If they can identify what triggers the production of ethylene in a normally healthy female grown under commercial standards to hermie will help eliminate wasted production of hermaphrodites that could potentially destroy the entire crop which as of 2 yrs ago was a major issue for commercial growers in Canada

So it's fair to say no one really knows why It happens all we can do is try our best to eliminate from our breeding stocks best we can

Hermaphrodites are as old as cannabis itself , old fart better check your facts here , to say you're a bad grower that why you get hermies is not only childish and spiteful but uniformed

Fuck billy you think it's so funny , inform us with your wisdom

 

[Billygoat]

Fuck billy you think it's so funny , inform us with your wisdom

The link i posted shows that ALL Cannabis carries the hermaphrodite trait. What more proof do you need to conced you are wrong?

CAN ALL CANNABIS HERMIE? YES IT CAN. END OF STORY.

 

[Madmick]

At least someone else read it.. interseting stuff for sure.

Funny thought that be way above your level of understanding, confirms you only read what suits you when it suits you

 

[med180]

At least someone else read it.. interseting stuff for sure.

I accually started this thread with the thought of sourcing as much actual fact links as possible in an effort to educate each other. Though I still foresee a lot of shit flinging

 

[Billygoat]

I accually started this thread with the thought of sourcing as much actual fact links as possible in an effort to educate each other. Though I still foresee a lot of shit flinging

I am genuinely interested myself. Wrong forum for robust discussion it would seem

 

[Billygoat]

Funny thought that be way above your level of understanding, confirms you only read what suits you when it suits you

Where did I say above my understanding?

 

[Madmick]

Fucking bullshit
True females will not hermie no matter what you do
Read and see only what suits your argument
This has been stated before and not by me , so obviously med got no idea either where he also stated 5 to 10 of females will not hermie no matter what you throw at them
For a owner of a cannabis site your knowledge seems very limited to backing others dillusional claims and accusations

 

[Sedge]

Porky and and mad mick haven’t a clue ,,never did and still don’t ,

So here is something to enlighten you both ,,and anyone else here ,,,including sock puppets,,,

Coz after all this is a place to learn shit.

All good breeders are going to have their grows dialed in ,,
So all their genetics become acclimatised to their environment .

Common sense ,,is it not ?

So the seeds they make are going to do fine in any environment that has been dialed in ,,

Joe Blogs buys seeds and his set up isn’t dialed in ,
So then the plants are hit with shit they aren’t used to ,and stress,

Thats why certain temps have been mentioned,,

lots of things can stress a plant to hermi ,,main offenders are fucked up light schedules and heat.
then pests ,mould,,chemicals even feeding with nutes that are too cold ...and anything else that will stress the plants.

But you two flogs have no nouse to figure anything out ,
especially things like Old Foxes plants being poisoned,,

For fuck sake how can you be so dumb to think that a chemical ,that it’s sole use is to kill plants won’t stress a plant that it already nearly killed ,,?

Porkys grow room continually gives hermies,
but in his ignorance blames breeders and chuckers alike..
Then wants to argue about shit he has no clue about ,thinking he is some sort of expert ?
FFS,,,how dumb can you get.

Mad mick ,,mic Mac ,Sister Mary and whatever other dumbshit name he goes by has no clue either ,but seems childishly hell bent on trying to prove he knows something ,but only shows himself up as knowing sweet fuck all.

Neither of you two seemed to have learned much at all from the forums you visit,,That’s coz you both have your heads up your arses.

One day you two might learn to grow up but I doubt it,
I guess in both your cases self realisation will be pretty hard to face..

have a nice day .

 

[Madmick]

How can understand something when you clearly stated you weren't going to read it

 

[Pikey]

Wrong forum for robust discussion it would seem

I thought that was OSA

 

[Billygoat]

How can understand something when you clearly stated you weren't going to read it

When did I say that?

 

[Billygoat]

Fucking bullshit
True females will not hermie no matter what you do
Read and see only what suits your argument
This has been stated before and not by me , so obviously med got no idea either where he also stated 5 to 10 of females will not hermie no matter what you throw at them
For a owner of a cannabis site your knowledge seems very limited to backing others dillusional claims and accusations

Did you read and/or understand the article I posted?

I will trust the author of that before believing your only evidence (A spanish seedbank blog).

It is all well and good for you to make baseless statements. Please back them up with some sort of scientific evidence? I just don't feel comfortable taking your word for it

 

[med180]

I am genuinely interested myself. Wrong forum for robust discussion it would seem

This something we should all be interested in learning more about rather than trying to prove points to each other!
If I find enough real studies with more good info like that first post I'll make a "serious" hermie thread and leave this one for the shit slinging