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I read the whole lot.
YOU quoted the article to support your theory but you are now trying to say otherwise after I questioned it?
Your logic is ridiculous and flawed.
The hermaphrodite thread!
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I read the whole lot.
YOU quoted the article to support your theory but you are now trying to say otherwise after I questioned it?
Your logic is ridiculous and flawed.
Please join our community to continue reading
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Sorry mate don't agree hermaphroditism has been around in cannabis since day dot.
You can't "blame" it entirely on the Spaniards.
Get on some of the very earliest forums that were around when you were in nappies.
Theres plenty of posts with hermies before FEMS were even a thing.pioneers like Blakely,shoenmaker and the like faced this all the time stabilising and hybridising landraces for indoor use.read the earlier ace info on breeding out undesirable traits.
It's Simply a naturally occuring emergency mechanism for survival.
For the hundredth time.
Some cultivars are more prone than others! And if you want to selectively breed it out with any degree of success your gonna need hundreds of plants.
So the best you can do in a hobby situation is cull what you feel is undesirable,easy really. Rubishing ,blaming,abusing and faulting breeders and raffle suppliers of our group of Home growers is really just counter productive BS.
Especially when I don't see you 2 doing anything any better.
Weak as piss really.
Very sorry Orb but I feel the abusive shit on here is beyond the joke and needs to stop.
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https://www.theserratededge.com/forum/threads/plan-z-for-outdoor-summer.371/. 1 Dec 2020. I initially assumed it was shitty genetics throwing hermies. So I initially blamed the breeder. I later found out that round up had been sprayed a few weeks earlier, creating run off to three Durban Poison plants. I regrew 3 plants of the same strain( from the same seed batch)indoors a few months later , without any issues. Only the environment was different. What are the chances of ALL hermies from one batch growing under glyphosate run-off de stabilising, versus ALL clean plants a few months later in a different environment? I know, I know, it was a breeder issue, right ! Ignorance is bliss.Round-up = Hermie
It's on OS ya said. No it's not!
Enough said!! Your the master breeder!
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Perhaps we need to think about this in a different way
Maybe the members that complain about hermies run such a great and comfortable environment that the plants feel safe to come out of the closet and express their gender regardless of what their chromosomes tell them thus they start to identify as what they feel is their true gender
Maybe the members that complain about hermies run such a great and comfortable environment that the plants feel safe to come out of the closet and express their gender regardless of what their chromosomes tell them thus they start to identify as what they feel is their true gender
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Well it didn't come from a Spanish blog
Look it up yourself, she states that this has never been studied b4 and they don't know why
Apparently it's a major concern for Canadian commercial grows
It's not from a blog nor is it opinion
Published April 30, 2021 by Hayley McKay
As for the quote , now knowing none of it is based on any scientific information and is merely opinions I found it strange the top half was able to be quoted as "proof of reasons to hermie " yet I was able to use the same blog and quote something that is opposite to what was above , so 2 different opinions on the same subject on the same blog
I'm prepared to concede there may be more than genes and chromosomes at work here , ii agree heavily stressed plants have more chance to hermie
But as to actual scientific evidence, there isn't any , so far all there is opinions
As to sedge reference to the fox hunt , well I think statements like
" all your grows are absolute shit "
" your environment is crap , that's why they hermie on you "
Or possibly the dumb and dumber references or better
" you got no idea you shouldn't give advice to other growers "
So i should just let statements like these fly ?
See it for what it was , a personal attack, of retaliation is coming
So if you think you know why your plants hermie it's merely another opinion, as love to grow said it may have been the 15mins light in the middle of lights out or it could have been going to happen regardless
Maybe if you spent a little more time reading others reply instead of scouring of mine trying to catch me out and some of the statements that lead to the reply
No body knows why plants hermie
Oldfart didn't I send a generous pack of seeds along with 4 or 5 others , couple hundred to billy long before the fem seed program
They donated with no obligations, how many of you know about that ?
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Rubishing ,blaming,abusing and faulting breeders and raffle suppliers of our group of Home growers is really just counter productive BS."
Especially when I don't see you 2 doing anything any better."
Wasn't looking for a pat on the back
Look it up yourself, she states that this has never been studied b4 and they don't know why
Apparently it's a major concern for Canadian commercial grows
It's not from a blog nor is it opinion
Cannabis' Hermaphrodite Conundrum
Published April 30, 2021 by Hayley McKay
As for the quote , now knowing none of it is based on any scientific information and is merely opinions I found it strange the top half was able to be quoted as "proof of reasons to hermie " yet I was able to use the same blog and quote something that is opposite to what was above , so 2 different opinions on the same subject on the same blog
I'm prepared to concede there may be more than genes and chromosomes at work here , ii agree heavily stressed plants have more chance to hermie
But as to actual scientific evidence, there isn't any , so far all there is opinions
As to sedge reference to the fox hunt , well I think statements like
" all your grows are absolute shit "
" your environment is crap , that's why they hermie on you "
Or possibly the dumb and dumber references or better
" you got no idea you shouldn't give advice to other growers "
So i should just let statements like these fly ?
See it for what it was , a personal attack, of retaliation is coming
So if you think you know why your plants hermie it's merely another opinion, as love to grow said it may have been the 15mins light in the middle of lights out or it could have been going to happen regardless
Maybe if you spent a little more time reading others reply instead of scouring of mine trying to catch me out and some of the statements that lead to the reply
No body knows why plants hermie
Oldfart didn't I send a generous pack of seeds along with 4 or 5 others , couple hundred to billy long before the fem seed program
They donated with no obligations, how many of you know about that ?
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Rubishing ,blaming,abusing and faulting breeders and raffle suppliers of our group of Home growers is really just counter productive BS."
Especially when I don't see you 2 doing anything any better."
Wasn't looking for a pat on the back
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Too hard to read that rubbish.
You brought the Spanish blog to the table when you copy and pasted from it.
It doesn’t support your theory, so a pretty strange thing to add in favour of your opinion. And now you are refuting your own evidence? Wtf?
Instead of posting several posts in a row with after thoughts, sit back and consider posting a single, thought out, sensical post. It will make I easier to continue the discussion.
As it sits you are well behind..
Madmick
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"You brought the Spanish blog to the table when you copy and pasted from it."
You might want to revue 6th December the well behind
For fucks sake I didn't introduce the Spanish blog at all , again you see what you want to see
In the jungle room thread old fox posted this link on jungle room thread on the 26th December
He has quoted this link and made reference to it on more than 1 occasion , this is a example of the proof he supllies , other reference on that thread are also blogs , not studies scientific or not
Like I said you only see what you want to see
You might want to revue 6th December the well behind
For fucks sake I didn't introduce the Spanish blog at all , again you see what you want to see
In the jungle room thread old fox posted this link on jungle room thread on the 26th December
He has quoted this link and made reference to it on more than 1 occasion , this is a example of the proof he supllies , other reference on that thread are also blogs , not studies scientific or not
Like I said you only see what you want to see
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Did you ever let MSNL know that you were wrong and it wasn't their seeds that were unstable?
Porky
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Fuck me you sook I've never abused old fox once. I said he's got no idea which I stand by!Sorry mate don't agree hermaphroditism has been around in cannabis since day dot.
You can't "blame" it entirely on the Spaniards.
Get on some of the very earliest forums that were around when you were in nappies.
Theres plenty of posts with hermies before FEMS were even a thing.pioneers like Blakely,shoenmaker and the like faced this all the time stabilising and hybridising landraces for indoor use.read the earlier ace info on breeding out undesirable traits.
It's Simply a naturally occuring emergency mechanism for survival.
For the hundredth time.
Some cultivars are more prone than others! And if you want to selectively breed it out with any degree of success your gonna need hundreds of plants.
So the best you can do in a hobby situation is cull what you feel is undesirable,easy really. Rubishing ,blaming,abusing and faulting breeders and raffle suppliers of our group of Home growers is really just counter productive BS.
Especially when I don't see you 2 doing anything any better.
Weak as piss really.
Very sorry Orb but I feel the abusive shit on here is beyond the joke and needs to stop.
All along all ive said is I think the standard of breeding has taken a turn towards lower tolerance plants which herm much easier than they used to!
I've noticed it since most major former Holland breeders moved to Spain. I'm not the only one heaps of threads on other forums say the same!
You can pull ya lips from oldfoxs arse when ever ya like because this is now the 5th time you have tried to give me shit about abusing him and I haven’t once!! So fuck off!
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The chick that wrote that is hot!! She's got no idea but!!Bloody Spider Farmer knows how to turn hermies back to female.....pull the nannas off, TaDa! back to female
How to Turn A Hermie Back into A Female [Full Guide]
How to turn a hermie back into a female? This post offers everything you need to reverse hermaphrodite plants into females, including a step-by-step tutorial.www.spider-farmer.com
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No, simply because of timing. I reported the issue initially, and only discovered later about the Round-up. They had already posted a new batch of seeds out by then. Do you think I should return the 10 new seeds to them?Did you ever let MSNL know that you were wrong and it wasn't their seeds that were unstable?
MSNL stuff isn't getting through Aus Kustoms anymore, so my feedback is no longer impacting on their commercial interest in Aus.
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On occasion, it has been observed that hermaphroditic inflorescences can develop spontaneously (Small, 2017). These plants produce predominantly female inflorescences, but anthers (ranging from a few to many) may develop within the leaf axils or in pistillate flower buds. These hermaphroditic inflorescences can be induced by exogenous applications of different chemicals (Ram and Jaiswal, 1970, 1972; Ram and Sett, 1981), and by environmental stresses (Rosenthal, i1991; Kaushal, 2012),
Pikey
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Never said you should return the seedsNo, simply because of timing. I reported the issue initially, and only discovered later about the Round-up. They had already posted a new batch of seeds out by then. Do you think I should return the 10 new seeds to them?
. Just thought, seeing as you bagged/blamed their seeds and they were good enough to both believe you and send ample compensation, that any decent person would have the integrity to at least let them know it wasn't their seeds at fault after all 
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Don't know why that link didn't work. Ill try again. ( from the article in this thread.) On occasion, it has been observed that hermaphroditic inflorescences can develop spontaneously (Small, 2017). These plants produce predominantly female inflorescences, but anthers (ranging from a few to many) may develop within the leaf axils or in pistillate flower buds. These hermaphroditic inflorescences can be induced by exogenous applications of different chemicals (Ram and Jaiswal, 1970, 1972; Ram and Sett, 1981), and by environmental stresses (Rosenthal, 1991; Kaushal, 2012), So it's established by Rosenthal in 1991, and Kaushal 2012, that " these hermaphroditic inflorescences can be induced by....blah.......and by ENVIRONMENTAL STRESSES. Plain. English enough for the bullshit artists Porky and Mick. Who have repeatedly posted the most stupid, ignorant, moronic, incorrect, claims about cannabis we have read in a long while. How about your morons take a long hard look at your environments before spruiking some of the dumbest shit we have ever fucken seen. You absolute dumb cunts. 
Dumb and dumber !!!!
Dumb and dumber !!!!
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Why don't you ask Porky and Mick if they have ever had the decency to let other breeders know about their grow errors? Why is it lately this passive aggressive stance you seem to take towards my posts Pikey? Is there something you'd like to say? So sure I should have the decency to give MSNL feedback, but you've also missed dozens of unsubstantiated and incorrect pot shots directed at me and others in the last week. And this is the best you can come up with Pikey?Never said you should return the seeds
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This is a great RESEARCH ARTICLE.
Suggest if anyone wants to throw any weight to the discussion, please link your source and give due credit (Dont just copy and paste random shit you find on google).
For those that take the time to read it, it seems that hermaphrodite traits are in all gene sequences of Cannabis,, well that is at least my understanding, a fair bit in that paper is well outside my pay grade... Anyway, for anyone interested have a read.
www.frontiersin.org
Suggest if anyone wants to throw any weight to the discussion, please link your source and give due credit (Dont just copy and paste random shit you find on google).
For those that take the time to read it, it seems that hermaphrodite traits are in all gene sequences of Cannabis,, well that is at least my understanding, a fair bit in that paper is well outside my pay grade... Anyway, for anyone interested have a read.
Hermaphroditism in Marijuana (Cannabis sativa L.) Inflorescences – Impact on Floral Morphology, Seed Formation, Progeny Sex Ratios, and Genetic Variation
Cannabis sativa L. (hemp, marijuana) produces male and female inflorescences on different plants (dioecious) and therefore the plants are obligatory out-crossers. In commercial production, marijuana plants are all genetically female; male plants are destroyed as seed formation reduces flower...
