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Pedro de pacas

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Mate haven't you heard of moon and star solar you DC!! 🤣
Just like wind turbines don't work at night when it's windy!! 🤣
Yeah righto DC, I can see why you voted for them, you're as dumb as dog shit
They wont work if its not windy, day or night
 

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COVID-19 virus ‘absolutely’ did not come from lab leak​

Tom BurtonGovernment editor
Feb 28, 2022 – 6.22pm

Three new studies on the origin of COVID-19 “absolutely” demonstrate the virus could not have come from a laboratory leak 30 kilometres from the Wuhan market that the virus spread from, according to Eddie Holmes, NSW’s 2020 scientist of the year and the winner of the Prime Minister’s Prize for Science in 2021.
An evolutionary scientist from Sydney University, Professor Holmes co-authored two multinational studies released as preprints over the weekend. He said they show the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the epicentre of the original COVID-19 outbreak that has now killed more than 5 million people.
Professor Eddie Holmes says the new studies strongly show a Wuhan marketplace was the source of virus that causes COVID-19. Louise Cooper
“What this [work] suggests is that the Huanan market is not the amplifier, it’s the starting point that began from multiple species jumps in that market, and it spread out of there,” Professor Holmes told The Australian Financial Review.
“What it absolutely excludes is there is no conceivable way you can get that pattern if the virus had escaped from a laboratory that’s located 30 kilometres away.
“I think the ship has sailed on the lab theory. I can’t see how you can explain those data with a lab leak from a lab that is some distance away.”
 

Pedro de pacas

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Maybe one of the Lab workers got fish and chips on the way home ^
There is nothing "absolutely" about anything

Where's ya communist flag freddie
 

Pedro de pacas

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WHO: COVID origins unclear but lab leak theory needs study​

The World Health Organization is recommending in its strongest terms yet that a deeper probe is required into whether a lab accident may be to blame for the COVID-19 pandemic
ByMaria Cheng and Jamey Keaten Associated Press
June 10, 2022, 8:46 AM

 

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Not bad looking for a content creator and renonund misinformation spreader!!


COVID-19 virus ‘absolutely’ did not come from lab leak​

Tom BurtonGovernment editor
Feb 28, 2022 – 6.22pm

Three new studies on the origin of COVID-19 “absolutely” demonstrate the virus could not have come from a laboratory leak 30 kilometres from the Wuhan market that the virus spread from, according to Eddie Holmes, NSW’s 2020 scientist of the year and the winner of the Prime Minister’s Prize for Science in 2021.
An evolutionary scientist from Sydney University, Professor Holmes co-authored two multinational studies released as preprints over the weekend. He said they show the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan was the epicentre of the original COVID-19 outbreak that has now killed more than 5 million people.
Professor Eddie Holmes says the new studies strongly show a Wuhan marketplace was the source of virus that causes COVID-19. Louise Cooper
“What this [work] suggests is that the Huanan market is not the amplifier, it’s the starting point that began from multiple species jumps in that market, and it spread out of there,” Professor Holmes told The Australian Financial Review.
“What it absolutely excludes is there is no conceivable way you can get that pattern if the virus had escaped from a laboratory that’s located 30 kilometres away.
“I think the ship has sailed on the lab theory. I can’t see how you can explain those data with a lab leak from a lab that is some distance away.”
Even more impossible is a multi species jump.
Yet the virus has been manipulated from a bat virus to affect humans.
 
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freddie

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Maybe one of the Lab workers got fish and chips on the way home ^
There is nothing "absolutely" about anything

Where's ya communist flag freddie
Fabian socialist don't ya mean? Is there a flag?

I just don't automatically believe in conspiracy, and it's always easy to blame the Chinese for everything. They have an unsanitary wet market with all kinds of critters from all over the place. There are loads of viruses out there and before labs were invented and blamed for everything, we got viruses from animals.
 
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Even more impossible is a multi species jump.
Yet the virus has been manipulated from a bat virus to affect humans.
Viruses do jump species. I can quote loads of articles if you want, or maybe you remember the hendra virus that went from bats to horses to humans. That happened in QLD. It had a lot of press. There are loads of other viruses, way before labs. It is more likely to occur the more humans encroach on the natural environment.
 

Cheech

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As early as 2007, the group headed by Zheng-li Shi from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) created a series of “bat-man” CoV chimeric spike proteins (1,4) to enable CoVs to jump from one species to another and model “spillover effects” that could trigger a pandemic. Shi’s goal was to turn the bat CoVs into huACE2-binding molecules, that is, to design promoters of human infection. (1,3,4)

With regard to the recent history of these gain-of-function manipulations of coronaviruses, a U.S. NIH funded $3.7 million grant was approved by Trump’s COVID-19 advisor Anthony Fauci in 2015. The gain-of-function research was outsourced to the WIV, which remains at the center of scrutiny with regard to the COVID-19 pandemic. (5)

An indicator that the NIH-funded research had gone too far arose when the tinkered CoV-RaTG13 became endowed at the spike protein with a “detonator”, that is, a cleavage site recognized and activated by the host-cell enzyme furin (Figure 1). (6) This site has not been identified in other CoVs from the same lineage. The way this cleavage site is incorporated attests to the artificial origin of SARS-CoV-2. The furin-associated cleavage site was created by incorporation of the 12-nucleotide insert TCCTCGGCGGGC coding for the PRRA amino acid sequence at the S1/S2 junction in the spike monomer. Strikingly, the two adjacent arginines are coded by two consecutive CGG codons. Only about 5% of arginines in SARS-CoV-2 or RaTG13 are coded by CGG. (3) This implies that the CGGCGG in the inset would have an estimated 0.25% probability to “naturally” occur as an encoder of the RR motif. Other suspicious aspects pertain to the way in which the encoding cassette was inserted to create the cleavage site. The insertion causes a split in the original codon for serine (TCA) in RaTG13, (3) so the TC portion becomes now part of a new codon for serine (TCT), while the terminal adenosine (A) becomes part of a codon for alanine (GCA), yielding the following sequence: TC[TCCTCGGCGGGC]A. This is very odd, clearly pointing to an artificial origin.ml1c00274_0001.gif
 

Cheech

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They got bat and chips you DC!!

Well off ya go then dickhead! 🤣
Don't talk about Pedro that way!! 🤣

Maybe your the one that can't read champ because no where in that thread was anyone giving seeds away the title was a joke that you couldn't comprehend!! 🤣
Point is who gives a fuck ,I guess your a little maggot hiding behind your computer as a substitute for your little mouth.
 
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Do three new studies add up to proof of COVID-19’s origin in a Wuhan animal market?​

Preprints unlikely to end debate over how SARS-CoV-2 began the pandemic, but some scientists say lab-leak hypothesis has taken a “blow”​

Three new studies build the case that COVID-19 originated at the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan, China.AP PHOTO/DAKE KANG
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A version of this story appeared in Science, Vol 375, Issue 6584.Download PDF
Three new studies offer one indisputable conclusion about the origin of SARS-CoV-2: Despite the passage of 2 years and the Chinese government’s lack of transparency, data that can shed light on the pandemic’s greatest mystery still exist. And although these new analyses don’t all reach the same conclusion for how COVID-19 was sparked, each undercuts the theory that the virus somehow escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, long a focus of suspicions.
The studies examine different aspects of the viral spread at the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan, China, the city where the first cases were detected. Two international efforts build the case that SARS-CoV-2 jumped to people from infected animals—a zoonotic leap—at the market, likely twice, at the end of 2019. A third, largely Chinese effort details early signs of the coronavirus in environmental and animal samples from the market but suggests the virus was imported there, perhaps from outside the country—a conclusion the University of Arizona’s Michael Worobey, an evolutionary biologist who is a corresponding author of the two international studies, calls “a huge disconnect.”
The studies were posted as preprints and are not peer reviewed, but scientists, biosecurity experts, journalists, and others are already intensely examining their details. “I have been brought closer to the zoonosis side with these preprints,” says Flo Débarre, an evolutionary biologist at the French national research agency, CNRS, who has followed the origin debate closely and not thrown her lot with either the natural-origin or the lab-leak camp. Evolutionary biologist William Hanage of Harvard University agrees these studies “will be taken as a blow” to the lab-leak hypothesis. “They substantially move the needle on the origins in the direction of the market,” Hanage says.
Skeptics of the natural origin theory maintain the market cluster could merely be a superspreader event touched off when a person infected with a lab-escaped coronavirus visited it. But Worobey thinks further data could make that contention even less tenable. A more transparent analysis of the market’s genetic sampling data, in particular, might identify exactly which species of animals sold there carried the virus.
In one study, Worobey and colleagues describe two subtly different lineages of SARS-CoV-2 that were found in people at the Huanan Seafood Market in late 2019, which they take as a sign that the virus jumped twice from animals to humans there. Their other study offers a geospatial analysis of the earliest human cases that pinpoints the market as the “epicenter” of SARS-CoV-2’s emergence, showing both lineages infected people who had links to the market or lived near it. It also connects the specific stalls at the market where live animals were sold to environmental samples known to have tested positive for the virus. “Together, these analyses provide dispositive evidence for the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 via the live wildlife trade and identify the Huanan market as the unambiguous epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic,” they conclude.
Worobey and colleagues had hoped to release their preprints in the next week but sped up their plans, choosing a preprint server that posts without any delays, when the Chinese study was posted on 25 February on the Research Square site. Led by George Gao of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and co-authored by 37 other scientists (one is from Canada), that research—which builds on data earlier leaked to the media but never officially published—offers the most detailed description yet of the environmental samples the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention obtained at the Huanan Seafood Market between 1 January and 2 March 2020.

In the new preprint, Gao and colleagues analyzed 1380 samples from 188 animals in the market and the environment, including sewer wells, the ground, feather removing machines, and “containers.” They found SARS-CoV-2 in 73 samples. But because all were from the environment, not the animals themselves, they assert that humans introduced the virus to the market. The authors call the market an “amplifier,” not the source, of SARS-CoV-2.
Hewing closely to government assertions on COVID-19’s origin, the preprint by Gao and colleagues notes studies that have reported evidence of SARS-CoV-2 in other countries before it surfaced in Wuhan, making no mention of critiques that attribute that evidence to contamination. It also floats a widely disputed theory that frozen food imported to China might have been the original source. (Authors of the paper, including Gao, did not respond to requests to discuss the work.)
The coronavirus lineage analysis from Worobey and colleagues refines an argument posited by virologist Robert Garry last year. In data on the early human cases, Garry had identified two different forms of SARS-CoV-2, differing by just two mutations, which he argued surfaced at different Wuhan markets in December 2019. The new work, which includes Garry as a co-author and cites evidence from the Gao study, reshapes that scenario significantly. It concludes that both lineages, dubbed A and B, originated at the Huanan Seafood Market and soon spread in nearby neighborhoods. B likely jumped from animals to humans in late November 2019, leading to the first detected case on 10 December, and lineage A a few weeks later, the group concludes. Either way, the team argues the almost simultaneous emergence of two lineages challenges the lab-origin thesis, as it would require two different viruses leaking at roughly the same time. (Gao and colleagues also found both SARS-CoV-2 lineages in their environmental samples.)
The second preprint from the international team builds on a June 2021 Chinese-led study that spent 2 years documenting a tick fever disease in mammals for sale at a specific stall in the market. The new study pinpoints for the first time where species susceptible to SARS-CoV-2—including raccoon dogs, hedgehogs, badgers, red foxes, and bamboo rats—were sold and maps those sites to the positive environmental samples, including in one “container” the authors believe was a cage. “To anyone who really grasps what is in all of those three papers, I think it’s very hard to dismiss that this is a very, very, very strong case that this pandemic started at that market,” Worobey says.
Others say they are not definitive. “They are interesting studies, but I don’t think they close the case on what happened with the origins of the virus,” says Jesse Bloom, an evolutionary biologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center who has criticized colleagues for too blithely dismissing the lab-origin hypothesis. “I’m especially skeptical of the conclusion that there must have been two zoonotic jumps.”
He notes that in about 10% of human transmissions of SARS-CoV-2, the virus acquires two mutations, which means a second lineage could have emerged after the infection of the first human rather than two zoonotic jumps. Worobey, Garry, and colleagues did a computer simulation that challenges Bloom’s assertion. They modeled what would have happened if there was an introduction of a single lineage and compared that with the viruses sequenced from Wuhan cases through 23 January 2020. By matching the sequence data from the actual epidemic, they found there was only a 3.6% chance that a single lineage mutated into a second one.
The environmental samples from the Wuhan market that tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 might resolve the stalemate over the virus’ origin if they can reveal a specific animal source of the virus. “If you find a positive sample with, say, lots of raccoon dog DNA, you’ve got a hit,” on the likely source of SARS-CoV-2, says evolutionary biologist David Robertson of the University of Glasgow, who co-authored the epicenter paper.
But the preprint by Gao and colleagues only notes that those samples contain DNA from many animals without specifying which one—other than humans. “The authors have already done the analysis, they have just not put all the results needed to interpret them in their paper,” says evolutionary biologist Andrew Rambaut of the University of Edinburgh, a co-author of both studies. “This will undoubtedly be fixed if the paper gets through peer review.”
Still, Worobey and his co-authors concede, even that evidence might not be enough to end this polarizing debate. “With the way that people have been able to just push aside any and all evidence that points away from a lab leak, I do fear that even if there were evidence from one of these samples that was full of red fox DNA and SARS-CoV-2 that people might say, ‘We still think it actually came from the handler of that red fox,’” Worobey says.
 

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Point is who gives a fuck ,I guess your a little maggot hiding behind your computer as a substitute for your little mouth.
Ohh don't like looking like a dickhead after all do ya champ!!
I'll sell ya some seeds if ya want?? 🤣🤣
 

Pedro de pacas

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Fabian socialist don't ya mean? Is there a flag?

I just don't automatically believe in conspiracy, and it's always easy to blame the Chinese for everything. They have an unsanitary wet market with all kinds of critters from all over the place. There are loads of viruses out there and before labs were invented and blamed for everything, we got viruses from animals
I'm sure they would of had a few, probably had this shit below on them
Remember Gough, he wasn't only a card carrying Fabián he was patron Saint of the cunts in OZ
didn't they teach you anything in (how to be a good socialist) school

I don't really care where corona come from, unless it was from a lab in China and the research was funded by the NHI (usa)
its the bullshit response that followed that was fucked, especially how almost everycunt bent over without question when told to

You lefty flogs used to be against the establishment, what happened ?, you've gone all fascist these days, back to your roots (y)
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I'm sure they would of had a few, probably had this shit below on them
Remember Gough, he wasn't only a card carrying Fabián he was patron Saint of the cunts in OZ
didn't they teach you anything in (how to be a good socialist) school

I don't really care where corona come from, unless it was from a lab in China and the research was funded by the NHI (usa)
its the bullshit response that followed that was fucked, especially how almost everycunt bent over without question when told to

You lefty flogs used to be against the establishment, what happened ?, you've gone all fascist these days, back to your roots (y)
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iu
If Fabian Socialists were effective they would be the establishment (that's the point isn't it?). But they aren't. Big business still runs the world.

Thanks for posting that great coat of arms. I need to get the t shirt!

Socialists still hate the establishment. They are just more sensible these days and can see the difference between a health measure vs they're-coming-to-take-your-freedom-forever.

Still it was pretty funny to see some of the Melbourne protests. Were you on the bridge singing "Horses", like the other dickheads? That was some hilarious shit. Are construction workers lefty flogs or fascists? It's confusing these days.
 

Pedro de pacas

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If Fabian Socialists were effective they would be the establishment (that's the point isn't it?). But they aren't. Big business still runs the world.

Thanks for posting that great coat of arms. I need to get the t shirt!

Socialists still hate the establishment. They are just more sensible these days and can see the difference between a health measure vs they're-coming-to-take-your-freedom-forever.

Still it was pretty funny to see some of the Melbourne protests. Were you on the bridge singing "Horses", like the other dickheads? That was some hilarious shit. Are construction workers lefty flogs or fascists? It's confusing these days.
Here ya go, tell me they haven't been effective, 1884-1901 that's just the start of the elitist bullshit you stand for, not hard to find the rest, and the link they have with what goes on today

 
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