Best Way To Beat Roadside MDT?

[Porky]

I must be dumb too, isn't saliva involved in taking an edible?... I mean I assume you put them in your mouth and eat them?

I took one of Pat's death caps a couple of nights back, admittedly i just swallowed it so the time for it to mix with saliva was minimal, but I could taste it in me burps for the next few hours until i passed out... lol

He shelfs his up his arse!!

 

[Old fox]

Oral swabs only detect cannabis use in the past 24 hours.
Therefore cannabis is not present in saliva after that period.
Even though it would be detected in a urine test.
This is not open for debate.

Then we won't debate it. It's much easier to be ignorant ( especially for you, it seems to come naturally). Learning hurts sometimes, particularly if you're not open to it.

 

[elsooto]

I'm not being funny, but what does that link prove?

Screenshot for those that can't open the link : (click to expand)
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Was wondering the same. The guy used mouthwash, vinegar and peroxide and it seems like he was actually surprised he passed?

 

[Topgun]

This is probably to sciency for you pack animals but here goes.

Not necessarily. THC testing on oral fluid is questionable at best.

Take other drugs like methamphetamine / opiates. These can realtively freely move from blood to oral fluid, but not vice versa because they get "ion locked" in oral fluid, ie these are "basic" (alkaline) drugs, which will more readily dissolve into oral fluid due to a change in pH from blood to oral fluid. These drugs once protonated can't passively return to the bloodstream, so end up concentrating into oral fluid. Generally speaking, using meth as an example, the oral fluid concentrations are up to 10x higher than in blood / plasma.

THC however is an acidic drug, as well as being quite non polar, so if given the choice, it'll remain in blood where it'll happily bind to proteins etc. There is some transfer to oral fluid, but you'll find that the oral fluid THC level is much lower than the blood / plasma level.

Because it's an acidic drug, this "ion locking" doesn't occur, because it's already protonated (being acidic).

That being said, you can test positive on an oral fluid swab for THC, but this is mostly from the residual THC in the oral cavity that "sticks" there because it's ionised when smoked. This "sticking" also contaminates your buccal glands which produce saliva. Eating or using an expectorant to "empty" the contaminated oral fluid from these glands means hardly any THC remains in the oral cavity.

Now, eating cannabis avoids the process of ionising the molecule because it's not being smoked, and while yes, eating it will contaminate the oral cavity, it's not in the same way that smoking does.

A number of studies have found that although when eating cannabis you tend to consume much more THC than if U smoke a joint (if the brownies are good), the respective oral fluid THC levels are significantly lower than if it is smoked.

However, even if only 0.1% of systemic THC transfers into the oral cavity, you'll test positive.

The other thing to remember is that eating THC takes longer to take effect, but lasts significantly longer. So if you're going to test positive, the "risky" time for testing is much longer when eating it.

 

[elsooto]

Good old jaz the copy an paste king.
I'll happily admit I'm no clever cunt at all, but there seems to be some conflicting info there. And who writes an article and uses U instead of spelling YOU correctly?

 

[Billygoat]

This is probably to sciency for you pack animals but here goes.

Not necessarily. THC testing on oral fluid is questionable at best.

Take other drugs like methamphetamine / opiates. These can realtively freely move from blood to oral fluid, but not vice versa because they get "ion locked" in oral fluid, ie these are "basic" (alkaline) drugs, which will more readily dissolve into oral fluid due to a change in pH from blood to oral fluid. These drugs once protonated can't passively return to the bloodstream, so end up concentrating into oral fluid. Generally speaking, using meth as an example, the oral fluid concentrations are up to 10x higher than in blood / plasma.

THC however is an acidic drug, as well as being quite non polar, so if given the choice, it'll remain in blood where it'll happily bind to proteins etc. There is some transfer to oral fluid, but you'll find that the oral fluid THC level is much lower than the blood / plasma level.

Because it's an acidic drug, this "ion locking" doesn't occur, because it's already protonated (being acidic).

That being said, you can test positive on an oral fluid swab for THC, but this is mostly from the residual THC in the oral cavity that "sticks" there because it's ionised when smoked. This "sticking" also contaminates your buccal glands which produce saliva. Eating or using an expectorant to "empty" the contaminated oral fluid from these glands means hardly any THC remains in the oral cavity.

Now, eating cannabis avoids the process of ionising the molecule because it's not being smoked, and while yes, eating it will contaminate the oral cavity, it's not in the same way that smoking does.

A number of studies have found that although when eating cannabis you tend to consume much more THC than if U smoke a joint (if the brownies are good), the respective oral fluid THC levels are significantly lower than if it is smoked.

However, even if only 0.1% of systemic THC transfers into the oral cavity, you'll test positive.

The other thing to remember is that eating THC takes longer to take effect, but lasts significantly longer. So if you're going to test positive, the "risky" time for testing is much longer when eating it.

You are contradicting yourself with every post.

Pack animals?

You are copying and pasting directly from reddit.

Not up for debate though? lol

 

[Topgun]

You lot are far too critical. This was written in a forum and is almost the same as I have read in multiple places..........

Actually, upon reflection I realised I couldn't care less.
I don't even eat edibles you lily-livered pissants.
I suggest injecting Ivermectin into your jugular that should rid the world of a problem.

 

[elsooto]

bit like these 2 messages..



first it was apparently.. Then not so much

 

[Billygoat]

You lot are far too critical. This was written in a forum and is almost the same as I have read in multiple places..........

Actually, upon reflection I realised I couldn't care less.
I don't even eat edibles you lily-livered pissants.
I suggest injecting Ivermectin into your jugular that should rid the world of a problem.

See ya fuckwit, enjoy Reddit.

 

[Pixie]

To much of the glass bbq again

 

[benn0]

I must be dumb too, isn't saliva involved in taking an edible?... I mean I assume you put them in your mouth and eat them?

I took one of Pat's death caps a couple of nights back, admittedly i just swallowed it so the time for it to mix with saliva was minimal, but I could taste it in me burps for the next few hours until i passed out... lol

I've been thinking this the entire time while reading their argument haha fuuuccckkk

This was a good read, brightened up my new years eve lolol

 

[Billygoat]

I've been thinking this the entire time while reading their argument haha fuuuccckkk

This was a good read, brightened up my new years eve lolol

good read if you would like to make yaself a little dumber. lol

 

[Pixie]

You lot are far too critical. This was written in a forum and is almost the same as I have read in multiple places..........

Actually, upon reflection I realised I couldn't care less.
I don't even eat edibles you lily-livered pissants.
I suggest injecting Ivermectin into your jugular that should rid the world of a problem.

What a Woke

 

[benn0]

Fuckin Ivermectin ay hahaha

 

[Pixie]

Imagine living next door to that cunt