Growing on a tight budget

[Goonie Goat]

I've updated the nutrient recipe. The original was lacking in phosphorus, fiddling around with the numbers it was evident that it needed a different salt to boost P. The best thing for bringing p levels up is MAP.


Monoammonium phosphate

Haifa MAP 3kg 12-61-0 Fertiliser 100% Water Soluble | Mono Ammonium Phosphate | eBay Australia

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Campbells Diamond Special T - the base with trace minerals

https://petandgarden.com.au/products/campbells-diamond-special-t-water-soluble-npk-fertiliser-25kg?_pos=1&_psq=special+t&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Calcium Nitrate - instantly available Nitrogen and calcium

https://petandgarden.com.au/products/campbells-diamond-special-t-water-soluble-npk-fertiliser-25kg?_pos=1&_psq=special+t&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Monopotassium Phosphate - to bring Phosphorus levels up a bit for flower bulking

https://petandgarden.com.au/products/mono-potassium-phosphate-25kg?srsltid=AfmBOooUouVAG0s4n9xMfBYE2gZUO8Y5omYCeXLpCofDTl0W0AyOTRsB

Magnesium Sulphate aka Epsom Salts, for lush green leaves

https://petandgarden.com.au/products/magnesium-sulphate-fine-epsom-salts?pr_prod_strat=jac&pr_rec_id=ca02ed9ad&pr_rec_pid=7661142769843&pr_ref_pid=7661338820787&pr_seq=uniform

VEG
Special T (8.2-3.9-32) 0.70g/L
CalNit (15.5-0-0) 1.0g/L
MagSulf (0-0-0) 0.25g/L
MKP (0-22.7-28.2) 0.25g/L
Brix Fix 1ml/10L
(Total NPK 10.89-4.31-15.10)
Approximately 1.6 EC. Use throughout veg until the 2nd week after flip.

EARLY BLOOM (Version 1)
Special T 0.60g/L
CalNit 0.50g/L
MagSulf 0.10g/L
MKP 0.20g/L
MAP 0.25g/L
Brix Fix 1ml/10L
(Total NPK 10.11-14.28-16.03)
Use from week 2-6 with indicas and 2-9 with sativas.
EARLY BLOOM (Version 2)
Preferably I'd use this one, but you will need to get some calcium chloride to sub in for the calcium nitrate. This is pretty much 1-3-2, which is the perfect ratio for early flowering.

Special T 0.60g/L
Calcium Chloride 0.25g/L
MagSulf 0.25g/L
MAP 0.40g/L
Brix Fix 1ml/10L
(Total NPK 9.67-27.69-18.67)

RIPENING / LATE FLOWER
Special T 1.0g/L
CalNit 0.40g/L
MagSulf 0.10g/L
MKP 0.30g/L
MAP 0.20g/L
Brix Fix 1ml/10L
(Total NPK 8.84-12.06-21.29)
From week 7-9 with indicas and 9-12 with sativas.

OR
Ripening (Version 2)
Special T 1.0g/L
Magsulf 0.25g/L
MKP 0.40g/L
Calcium Chloride 0.25g/L
Brix Fix 1ml/10L
(Total NPK 5.71-9.30-29.49)


A little trick which helps is using those little Chinese takeaway sauce containers to measure up the salts.

First weigh the salts in the container and mark where its at on the container, that way you don't need to be weighing it the next time. It's as easy as making a coffee

 

[Beil]

Returning to this thread as Im pretty sure my wife's usual supplier has been busted, and after the abysmal summer venture we need to do something.
a few weeks of no reply and I can find SAPOL listing that matches up with approx age, location, timing of silence and a few other things :/.
BRB. Getting a beer and going through the list

 

[Goonie Goat]

Returning to this thread as Im pretty sure my wife's usual supplier has been busted, and after the abysmal summer venture we need to do something.
a few weeks of no reply and I can find SAPOL listing that matches up with approx age, location, timing of silence and a few other things :/.
BRB. Getting a beer and going through the list

Hmm hopefully all remains safe for yourself and family

 

[Beil]

Hmm hopefully all remains safe for yourself and family

Cheers, we should be. Absolutely zero connection to us. I'm not even 100% sure how she got his number. But he was reliable weekly for the past 2 years or so and his stuff was good, lots of variety

 

[afghan bob]

Mate as far as cheap and nasty goes, it would be remise of me not 2 include tight arse bob in the realms of "bit of this" and "bit of that, she'll be right mate"
I have used the same coco mix in a compost pile 4 around 7 yrs
Any kitchen scraps [vegitive], re-worked plants and even organic stuff has been added with frivolous aplomb
Any cheep and dusty nutrient leftovers, [besides worm castings]
All my bags are washed out, given the wire brush treatment [a very blunt wirebrush] and re-used
All water is captured through patented leaky gutter
Only thing i pay 4 is Perlite and some A+B
Yes it works most time, but their is occasional failure......[which i blame on dog or neighbour]

 

[Beil]

@Goonie Goat
Looks like I followed your shopping list to a tee.
Just need some ducting, extension lead, power board and timer from Bunnings.
Tent is probably too big for the light, but I dont plan on filling it (yet), but it was the best price for 1800mm tall instead of 1600mm.

 

[Goonie Goat]

@Goonie Goat
Looks like I followed your shopping list to a tee.
Just need some ducting, extension lead, power board and timer from Bunnings.
Tent is probably too big for the light, but I dont plan on filling it (yet), but it was the best price for 1800mm tall instead of 1600mm.

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Looking great. If you want I can send you a variable speed controller for your inline fan. Got some laying around from previous grow setup, also might be interested in this if you plan on expanding
I just found this on AliExpress:
Full Spectrum LED Grow Light 120W LM281B Dimmable Plant Lights For Indoor Plants Flower Seedling Greenhouses Tent

Full Spectrum LED Grow Light 120W LM281B Dimmable Plant Lights For Indoor Plants Flower Seedling Greenhouses Tent - AliExpress

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@HomeBound_Hound Hound recently bought one, perhaps he'll give a review of it once he gets it

 

[Beil]

Looking great. If you want I can send you a variable speed controller for your inline fan. Got some laying around from previous grow setup, also might be interested in this if you plan on expanding
I just found this on AliExpress:
Full Spectrum LED Grow Light 120W LM281B Dimmable Plant Lights For Indoor Plants Flower Seedling Greenhouses Tent

Full Spectrum LED Grow Light 120W LM281B Dimmable Plant Lights For Indoor Plants Flower Seedling Greenhouses Tent - AliExpress

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

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@HomeBound_Hound Hound recently bought one, perhaps he'll give a review of it once he gets it

Didn't think of speed, because yeah it'll just be on or off.
...but just checked, it has 2 speeds (wonder if low is too fast?).
Need to clear some space as everything is coming next week - keg fridge needs moving as its located where I'll be putting the tent and I need to block out the shed windows this weekend as you'll be able to look right at the tent when rellies come over (and my missus leaves the light on all the time so neighbours will have a good view at the right angle :/

That aliexpress link is coming in at $45 (new shoppers special) which is dirt cheap

 

[Goonie Goat]

Didn't think of speed, because yeah it'll just be on or off.
...but just checked, it has 2 speeds (wonder if low is too fast?).
Need to clear some space as everything is coming next week - keg fridge needs moving as its located where I'll be putting the tent and I need to block out the shed windows this weekend as you'll be able to look right at the tent when rellies come over (and my missus leaves the light on all the time so neighbours will have a good view at the right angle :/

That aliexpress link is coming in at $45 (new shoppers special) which is dirt cheap

Yeah they got good reviews too. Id say the drivers would go on them before the diodes too. Might have to get myself one for my seedling tent

 

[HomeBound_Hound]

Didn't think of speed, because yeah it'll just be on or off.
...but just checked, it has 2 speeds (wonder if low is too fast?).
Need to clear some space as everything is coming next week - keg fridge needs moving as its located where I'll be putting the tent and I need to block out the shed windows this weekend as you'll be able to look right at the tent when rellies come over (and my missus leaves the light on all the time so neighbours will have a good view at the right angle :/

That aliexpress link is coming in at $45 (new shoppers special) which is dirt cheap

One speed 5 blade fan rotating dust mover....
Cheaper versions now but I've had these for years and still don't miss a beat
Have to upgrade to fancy one with better speed options one day but if ya on a budget it's optional as long as ya moving air and have enough suction to get some negative pressure and pulling enough air through ya filter then ya golden

 

[HomeBound_Hound]

Didn't think of speed, because yeah it'll just be on or off.
...but just checked, it has 2 speeds (wonder if low is too fast?).

Ya won't be turning it off it runs the entire grow unless ya wanna grow a swamp....

 

[Beil]

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One speed 5 blade fan rotating dust mover....
Cheaper versions now but I've had these for years and still don't miss a beat
Have to upgrade to fancy one with better speed options one day but if ya on a budget it's optional as long as ya moving air and have enough suction to get some negative pressure and pulling enough air through ya filter then ya golden

I definitely missed the inline part of goonies words, thought he was talking about the clip ons with my reply.
Figured the inline would be on all the time... but didn't think about needing to reduce the speed on it :/

 

[HomeBound_Hound]

I definitely missed the inline part of goonies words, thought he was talking about the clip ons with my reply.
Figured the inline would be on all the time... but didn't think about needing to reduce the speed on it :/

Ya don't have to but it's handy if it's blowing gale force winds or something
If goonies offering it I'd take it before I hit him up for it lmfao

 

[Goonie Goat]

Its not really that necessary just more for fine tuning things, the fan could have a bit of coil whine which I get even in the AC inline fan.


The variac you can turn it up or down 0% to 100%, I know for a fact if I turn my fans down a smidge it can definitely reduce the high pitch whine coming from them, just gives a bit of extra control.

But yeah it's not fully needed, 100% speed is good most of the time

 

[Beil]

@Goonie Goat in that case, I'll set it all up and I may just hit you up lol.. im serring all this yp out the way, but noise would be a PITA. What state are you in? By the time postage comes into it, might be better just spending $30.
I noticed that says DC in the screenshot, is there some magic going on with the u it being DC affecting an AC fan?

 

[Goonie Goat]

@Goonie Goat in that case, I'll set it all up and I may just hit you up lol.. im serring all this yp out the way, but noise would be a PITA. What state are you in? By the time postage comes into it, might be better just spending $30.
I noticed that says DC in the screenshot, is there some magic going on with the u it being DC affecting an AC fan?

NSW man. I don't mind forking out for postage that's all good. They are just sitting around anyway.

They definitely work for AC fans. Must just be some mistake in the listing

 

[Goonie Goat]

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[HomeBound_Hound]

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