Chucking Curiosities

[Raniformis]

Now I'm really getting bored.... Female, hermaphrodite or stock standard sati trait? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

 

[RiverRat]

Id just stop grafting cuttings onto your stalks to keep trying to confuse us...

 

[Raniformis]

Haha, yeah but none took the bait, y'all too smart.

I'll get the ball rolling, this particular plant throws nothing but 100% female flowers but I'm asserting that the condition leading this plant to grow a branch/bud at a preflower site is the same condition that leads male flowers to grow at the preflower sites.

It's not hermaphrodite but it's an hermaphrodite trait, it will become more confused. What say you?

 

[Porky]

I'm the king of this land and subject!!

 

[Mellow oldfark]

Haha, yeah but none took the bait, y'all too smart.

I'll get the ball rolling, this particular plant throws nothing but 100% female flowers but I'm asserting that the condition leading this plant to grow a branch/bud at a preflower site is the same condition that leads male flowers to grow at the preflower sites.

It's not hermaphrodite but it's an hermaphrodite trait, it will become more confused. What say you?

Would flowers growing in the middle of shade leaves be a similar thing?

 

[Kloud9]

But that picture could very well be female just hasn't shown her bits yet..

 

[Raniformis]

I'm the king of this land and subject!!

Lol, for some reason I just got a vision of lord farquaad

 

[Raniformis]

Would flowers growing in the middle of shade leaves be a similar thing?

No I don't think so. The position that a gene occupies on the genome is called the locus and the locus for each gene (or set of genes) is at exactly the same position for all members of the same species. If you took the locus for eyeballs and swapped them with the locus for testicles you'd end up with eyeballs in ya scrotum and testicle in ya eye sockets.

It's nature's way of ensuring that we can't hybridise with donkeys and that everything stays where its supposed to be. Apparently cannabis has a similar mechanism to prevent inbred depression in that they can identify self pollen, thus seeming sterile. Pollen itself is like a miniature seed, it needs to hydrate before it can germinate and grow a tube into the pistil and down to the ovule where it inserts sperm. The suits ponder they may regulate self pollination through hydration.

So anyway, I'm just extrapolating from the above here but I'm guessing that some genes containing instructions for flowers have crossed over to a locus that contains the instructions for leaf???

 

[Raniformis]

In retrospect Oldfark you're dead right, it's exactly the same thing but not the same condition.

 

[afghan bob]

 

[Raniformis]

Okay, what I'm trying to say is that random and anonymous growth at the preflower sites is a hermie trait. Whenever you find a hermie you find random growth down low at the preflower sites well before any male flowers develop and when you use hermie plants the problem complies, one or two flowers become a dozen, etc.

It's not the first time I've said this, I brought it up about 5yrs ago on OSA but it went crickets. I'll try to explain exactly what's happening.

 

[Raniformis]

NOTE: You won't find this on Google because I pulled it out of my arse but with that said I'm not talking shit, just be mindful that it's an arseholes interpretation, lol. I assure you guys I don't get around pseudo sciencing cunts in real life, it's just an internet thing.

So in Ranis world a female plant has three different stages of flower (I made that up to explain it).

Stage 1: The pre-flower stage.
Stage 2: The true-flower stage.
Stage 3: The post-flower stage.

The preflower and postflower stages produce a single calyx structure while the true flower stage produces a multiple calyx structure. The single calyx structures are denoted with a red spot and the multiple calyx structures are denoted with a blue spot.



Male plants only have one stage of flower, all male flowers are of a singular structure and are denoted with a red spot. Bananas (nanas) are male flowers growing within the calyx.


I can't be fucked atm but I'm going somewhere with this, I'll get back with a conclusion in the next couple of days.

 

[Raniformis]

So getting back to the hermie thing, I have no idea about different stages of flower just that the red spot is different to the blue spot. There's something at the red spot that allows different types of growth to occur and I'm drawing a link between the singular structure of a male flower and the singular structure of the preflowers.

There's preflowers and true flowers, the reason I seperated them into 3 categories is because there's a point just before true flowers appear that the hermie action backs off and a point where it begins again.


Anyway a few years ago I realised they're a dominant phenotype (that's what I floated on OSA) then I realised they're actually a genotype. As a genotype the hermaphrodite gene is attached to the X chromosome ensuring a 50% ratio of males is always maintained (otherwise wild populations would eventually become 100% hermaphrodite).


NOTE: This information came from an arsehole remember, it's not gospel.

 

[Aye Shroomer]

This is some people cool info mate.

Not that I’m at the level of cultivating to use this info but its really helpful to understand the differences and all your diagrams and pics just make it easy for brains to understand.